OoC: A Voice from the Storm

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« Reply #50 on: December 08, 2019, 02:35:28 pm »
So here's what I've surmised about Leeva's knowledge of the forest:

In their neck of the woods, they know everyone and everything, but the deeper into the woods they go, the less they will know about the locals, and at that point Rizali will have to rely on what they've learned from Leeva about the forest's magic to get everyone through safely, and Leeva will assist as much as possible, obviously.

That's what I've got.

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« Reply #51 on: December 08, 2019, 10:58:40 pm »
That sounds good to me :) I'll be relying on everyone to think up troubles they might come across later on.

Also, I had a lot of Elvish in this post, since it's Rizali's first language and the only language they've ever heard their brother speak. It seemed right to me that it's what they'd hear in their dreams. I felt like it was kind of interesting to just have it in the one language, since it's entirely unimportant to the larger story, but I thought I'd give the option to know more. So the section is this:

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“Asa'ma'lin,” he had said to them, the only one in the family they hadn’t resented for calling them that, “dianas mar’inan.”

They followed his instruction, feeling the world of sight close off to them as they did.

“Odheas, sildearas elvalaslin ar syl, siu’odhe d’lin’adahl. Ahn tu sildearas?”

“Durlahn,” they had replied.

“Da’lan, fenoris tu var lethal. Sal me, sal babae. Sal savis babaela.  Felgaras tu soun, felgaras tu adahlen mith’ma, harthas tu is’el lah.” He laughed, quietly, to himself. “Ni brithavanthe var vi’ssan’allem melahn felgaras pan ag na lein.”

They felt a tickle on their foot, and a flash of excitement passed through them. “Sila sildeara!” they said.


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“Sister,” he had said to them, the only one in the family they hadn’t resented for calling them that, “close your eyes.”

They followed his instruction, feeling the world of sight close off to them as they did.

“Breathe in, feel the sharpness of the air, smell the sweetness of the sap. What do you feel?”

“It's quiet,” they had replied.

“Young one, you are the most important of our family. More than me, more than father. More even than grandfather. As you grow stronger, as you grow closer to the forest, you will hear their voices.” He laughed, quietly, to himself. “I don't envy the politics you will have to suffer through with the other clans as you get older..”

They felt a tickle on their foot, and a flash of excitement passed through them. “I think I felt something!” they said.

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« Reply #52 on: December 09, 2019, 01:57:16 am »
Is the Elvish a preestablished thing I can look up or something you came up with?

I need to know for... reasons.

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« Reply #53 on: December 09, 2019, 07:17:40 am »
A little of column A, a little of column B.

The majority of the language comes from Dragon Age's Elvhen. In that series of games, the Dalish are the only elves who still speak it, and even they only have pieces of the language. It was nearly destroyed by the destruction of the ancient elven societies. Since all they have are fragments, a linguist who goes by fenxshiral created this project in which he tried to rebuild the language from the pieces that exist, keeping it in the flavour of what already existed, and fixing some of the holes that Bioware left behind.

But even that project was never finished. There's a lot there, but he stopped after a time. Soooo I've personalised it. I use his references for words and conjugations, and I take a lot of grammatical rules from Irish. In places where I can't find a corresponding word, I use the Irish equivalent as well. This probably doesn't work super great, since the Elvhen that fenxshiral has built is based off of certain rules of German (especially compounding words) and Portuguese. But I like Irish more than those languages :P

Anyway, that was a lot of overexplaining. Soz friend, the link is probably all you needed lol.

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« Reply #54 on: December 09, 2019, 08:55:38 am »
I like detailed explanations. Knowing what the basis is and what elements you added gives me a better idea what to change up. After all, Osin's dialect is gonna be a little different.

So there is no need to apologise, you silly goose :p

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« Reply #55 on: December 09, 2019, 09:34:24 am »
Ooh, is Osin from Elahána?

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« Reply #56 on: December 10, 2019, 04:22:20 am »
Ooh, is Osin from Elahána?
I intended her to be from a fairly remote island. It's quite possible that her people and the Elves of Elahána have common ancestry, though.

I guess her version of Elvish wouldn't be so much a different dialect than an entirely different language altogether (albeit in the same group).

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« Reply #57 on: December 10, 2019, 01:16:43 pm »
I think that should be fine. That being said, I imagine anyone else might not be terribly amused by continuing this thing I had expected as a rare thing happening  :sweatsmile:

General greeting is savhalla, then friend is falon. So something like "Savhalla, falon." then we can continue in English lol.

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« Reply #58 on: December 11, 2019, 12:44:16 am »
That's another thing, is it English or just Common Human Language or something like that?

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« Reply #59 on: December 11, 2019, 07:09:36 am »
Common human language, I'm just saying English because it's what we're typing the posts in, lol.

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« Reply #60 on: December 16, 2019, 12:44:02 pm »
I'm thinking a bit more about development of the as-yet unnamed empire on the other side of the forest.

Current concept right now:

  • Large political "union"
  • Very careful not to make it seem like this is some Star Wars faction of obvious baddies, but some place that holds onto power with strong military force, probably a bit too strongly. Their arrangement has substantial pros and cons.
  • Highly developed, wealthy capital
  • Self absorbed but reasonably competent teenage emperor
  • Whispers of a few secretive sort of counter-culture factions trying to expand democratic ideas
  • White-red colour scheme
  • Magic-oriented society, a series of influential nobles head various parts of society and carry out tasks that maintain the empire's stability.

I've done a rough draft of a flag concept for the wiki to be improved down the road~

Thoughts on any of this?

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« Reply #61 on: December 16, 2019, 10:32:06 pm »
I really like your idea of the leader. I think that could make some really interesting plot points and character interactions. My question is, if the military is so strong, why'd they make a barrier out of trees? Or did they do it or someone else?

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« Reply #62 on: December 17, 2019, 10:19:49 am »
To be fair, the Kingfisher forest has been around for over 1000 years. A lot can change in the dynamics of a country in that time. Maybe they were constantly held back by the eastern civilisations and only once that distraction was removed could advance.

I'm really into the idea of the empire and I can't wait to get there and explore it further :3

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« Reply #63 on: December 17, 2019, 01:21:51 pm »
Aaaaah, yes that makes sense. In that case the civilization could be however whatever, so it works xD

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« Reply #64 on: December 18, 2019, 10:53:44 am »
I was thinking something like the empire is old, but not really that old? The forest was constructed by mages and maybe the ruling powers that be are of the mind that if it isn't broken, they shouldn't fix it when there are other things to worry about.

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« Reply #65 on: December 18, 2019, 11:47:49 am »
Mm! I like that a lot. Since the empire is a political union, one of the nations that was absorbed into it could have been the source of the forest. Or maybe not even that, there aren't many countries that are 1000+ years old.

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« Reply #66 on: December 18, 2019, 12:50:00 pm »
Oooo, so the forest is, like, double mysterious.

I like it!

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« Reply #67 on: December 21, 2019, 03:45:46 pm »
Hey there friends!

So I've been reading up about the progress which has been made, and was wondering if I could perhaps put up a post about Ramår ere long.
As I've figured most of the dramatis personae are now in Kingfisher Forest, I was imagining perhaps they could notice lights vanishing into the forest, then contemplating the options of entering the forest or staying at the village, and ultimately choose to venture farther than just the edge of yon forest.
I would imagine Ramår's herbalist training and enchiridion of natural philosophy might perchance come quite in handy at some point in the near future.

As for the empire on the other side of the forest, I really like how the ideas concerning the treeline blend in with its pseudo-established characteristics. How wide is the forest supposed to be?
Vis-à-vis the motives of the military establishing a tree-based line of defence, although Kyrie's assumption seems reasonable, perhaps the forest (once) acted as a perennial, pseudo-natural border beyond which people were too afraid to go.
As well as setting in stone (well, wood) the borders of the nation, the military might also have been using it to shield people against the potential dangers of lurking into the area, percase due to some pollution, sickness, or (more likely, considering the magical properties of the forest, at least at its edges) some curse set on the land, and perchance even anterior to the settlement.
Pioneers exploring further and further may have at length recieved a wretched predicament from settling in the area, which was then planted. Maybe they aren't trees at all, but rather people who might've suddently been...entified? All of this is a bit of a stretch to be sure, please correct me if there's a canon explanation I missed.

Sorry again if my prose is too verbose <3
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« Reply #68 on: December 21, 2019, 04:01:56 pm »
Casssss, play with us!

I'd love for you to join with us! Since you've been reading along, you know that there are two people within the range of the party who can speak (one much more easily) to the forest itself. Between them and an herbalist, I imagine our party will be well-served on navigating the forest. Yeah, just have them have seen the lights of the party while Rizali/Kaegan/Lyndh were looking for firewood and been following them since that moment.

As for the forest, I imagine we'll learn more about the origins of it when we arrive in the empire. It's so old that the real reasons are likely lost to history save those people on that side of the divide who are reasonably interested in maintaining that history. I had a thought for why it was made, but I don't know whether I've listed that reason anywhere. Probably not :rofl:

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« Reply #69 on: December 22, 2019, 03:39:39 am »
Yeah, just have them {having} seen the lights of the party {...} and been following them since that moment.

Sure, that sounds fairly easy to work out. Is it known how far into the forest the party is as of today, in terms of days' walk from Ceadaichte Mòir?
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« Reply #70 on: December 22, 2019, 06:25:34 am »
By the way, I've been working on Ramår's second post, and I'm trying to figure out how I want their character and personality to evolve through the course of AVftS. They're actually extremely condescending right now, too much for my liking if I'm honest, though I'm also figuring that could make for some opportunities for some character development (albeit a somewhat bland one).

I'm afraid my post is wayyy too long and has wayy too little dialogue. As Ramår's a rather secretive person, afraid of the people of Ceadaichte Mòir, I only have as of right now a few lines of dialogue from three lumberjacks at the edge of the forest, whom Ramår actually hides from and doesn't interact with. Anyways I hope that's not too much of a problem with y'all.

If everything goes well with it I'm hoping to be able to put the post up tonight! I felt really inspired by everything that's gone on since my last one.
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« Reply #71 on: December 22, 2019, 11:30:45 am »
The post seemed quite good, actually, especially for a solo post. Between the last one and this, I've gotten a great feel for them, and also the writing style you've employed in your most recent post is highly interesting and fun to read. You've reached and made the prose very artistic and evocative.

You've also found the balance of where your questions' answers lay, without me having noticed your questions or answered them. For the record, Kaegan, Rizali, Leeva, and Lyndh are approximately a 90 minute walk into the forest, surely no more than a few kilometres. Great job! I'm looking forward to reading more <3

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« Reply #72 on: December 22, 2019, 12:04:18 pm »
Thanks a lot, Kyrie!
I actually didn't mean to post it this early and couldn't delete it afterwards so I just edited it as it was there :p I also significantly reworked the dialogue (monologue?) and downplayed the unwelcome aspects of Ramår's personality so that they now just have a few misconceptions about hillsfolk.

I must admit I wasn't feeling so sure about the whole 'torchlight' arc. Does Keagan's party actually have torches in their possession? I'm pretty glad they're only 90 minutes into the forest, that allows Ram to blend into the story much more realistically. (At the very first I was meaning to make them walk about twelve hours in a straight line in the forest so with hindsight I'm glad I reworked it to not specify the time they spent looking for everyone) <3

Anyways thanks for that!
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« Reply #73 on: December 22, 2019, 12:54:02 pm »
Hey Cas!

I just posted a reply, it's a collab post between me and Kyrie that we've been working on, so now we're all together ^.^

I might have missed it, is there a description of Ramar somewhere? I have no idea what they look like.

ALSO do we have three nonbinary people in one place? Because WOOT where's my flag???

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« Reply #74 on: December 22, 2019, 03:07:26 pm »
Top of the evening to ya, Rea!

I don't recall ever describing Ramår's physical appearance in much depth at all, if I'm honest. It just didn't strike me as actually important.

███████1 However, I've been figuring them as a young person of ambiguous gender, with curly ginger hair.
███████   They wear a fairly long, oversized vest of dark green felt. They're also rather short, but other than that
███████   I'm not sure I have a single clear physical representation of Ram. Us enbies transcend our physical ids.
███████   As for their voice and accent, they speak in a medium-pitch voice, and love overstressing the English /r/.

They also use an accent similar in most ways to a Kerry Irish accent and have a strong tendency to use the interjections 'aye', 'so' and sometimes 'like' at the beginning or end of sentences, or between independant verb clauses.
They adore using relative/interrogative directional adverbs like whithersoever or elsewhence, and they also often use 'yon' instead of 'that'.

Thanks for including me in that post, by the way. Now I just have to think of something to say to fecking Leeva. I really like reading about them, by the way. The writing style you use to convey their emotional and perceptive particularities is really refreshing and eldritch <3

1I'm actually not that big of a fan of the enby flag? I don't usually like purple in flags but here it doesn't really look bad, it's just the black is too.. depressing?
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